growing up as a young jew in oakland, california. they had the games. we bring them around, they call them the games when you go to israel, but they brought us in from around the planet. and we play. >> when did you do that? >> it was a disaster. i played in maryland, baltimore county, tennis and basketball. we got crushed by some long island jews. >> they're tough. >> pretty tough. >> there was a really hairy guy underneath. it was a disaster. >> there's always a hairy guy underneath. >> when we get pissed in a fight, we knock each other's yarmulkes off. >> we grew up with stories of sandy koufax and stuff like that. jewish sports tradition, it goes way back. >> red auerbach. you know a lot about theo epstein, mr. boston. >> yes, i do. >> why was he so significant to that run of a couple titles? >> as mark can attest, talk about who theo is in terms of his background. it's not just baseball, his family background, his cultural/social political background is enormously interesting. >> no, it's fascinating. first of all, he grew up in brookline, right ne